tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post8993955665476939190..comments2024-01-06T02:15:31.671-06:00Comments on Marcia Hoehne: Learning by Teaching, With Applications to VoiceMarciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10006966091789130047noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-16815991412635111262013-02-22T23:36:02.636-06:002013-02-22T23:36:02.636-06:00Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-3724373505253589372013-02-22T15:20:24.447-06:002013-02-22T15:20:24.447-06:00Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.Hello. And Bye. Thank you very much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-52524040496147498662013-02-01T12:47:57.606-06:002013-02-01T12:47:57.606-06:00gmzsq [url=http://www.drdrebeatsbuycheap.com]beats...gmzsq [url=http://www.drdrebeatsbuycheap.com]beats by dre[/url] nafjf http://www.drdrebeatsbuycheap.com gfpts [url=http://www.drdrebeatscheapest.com]cheap beats by dre[/url] mdgxp http://www.drdrebeatscheapest.com stbty [url=http://www.drdrecheapbeats.com]beats by dre[/url] uhysy http://www.drdrecheapbeats.com kxuco [url=http://www.drdreoutletstores.com]beats outlet[/url] xwjcf http://www.drdreoutletstores.com jpcdb [url=http://www.cheapestdrdrbeats.com]cheap beats by dre[/url] rmigx http://www.cheapestdrdrbeats.com qvoau [url=http://www.cheapbeatsdrdrestores.com]cheap beats by dre[/url] rfwvi http://www.cheapbeatsdrdrestores.com tefoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-17127592671841071992013-01-29T23:54:41.500-06:002013-01-29T23:54:41.500-06:00I think you're onto something. We hear "...I think you're onto something. We hear "Story!" trumpeted by all the professionals, but the voice has to lift that story off the page and take flight.<br /><br />Not just for mg-ers, I think. For everyone (or, at least, YA-ers, too).Daisy Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17735098333414333404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-84110144991124488662013-01-29T11:16:15.501-06:002013-01-29T11:16:15.501-06:00Emily -- Yes, I think you can definitely improve v...Emily -- Yes, I think you can definitely improve voice in revisions. Kind of refutes the idea that "You can't fix voice," really.<br /><br />Bish -- Love that!<br /><br />Stina -- I'm kind of that way, too. A great voice with a boring story seems pretentious. A great story with a reasonable voice will thrill me to pieces. <br /><br />Ruth -- Mostly, yes they do!<br /><br />Medeia -- Me too. I want a book that has it all. Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10006966091789130047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-91922694094329544602013-01-28T16:22:57.147-06:002013-01-28T16:22:57.147-06:00I want a book that has it all.
I can see how peop...I want a book that has it all.<br /><br />I can see how people struggle with voice. I see it with my students, and I know it took awhile to find mine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-4487239595649317522013-01-28T13:02:11.823-06:002013-01-28T13:02:11.823-06:00They really do go hand in hand, don't they?!They really do go hand in hand, don't they?!Ruth Schiffmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625363295823548969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-19389419016536970512013-01-27T17:19:42.554-06:002013-01-27T17:19:42.554-06:00This is hard to say. I've loved books that hav...This is hard to say. I've loved books that have a good voice but an amazing story, and have been disappointed with books that have an amazing voice but the story bored me. As long as you have a voice that isn't dull and a rocky story, I'm happy.Stinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415189347501942340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-39297252970348457992013-01-27T11:21:34.906-06:002013-01-27T11:21:34.906-06:00Voice may be like gravity, the weakest force, and ...Voice may be like gravity, the weakest force, and yet it holds the universe of the story together.Bish Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359927719391990534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-89733152283590332762013-01-26T10:02:01.886-06:002013-01-26T10:02:01.886-06:00Fleshing out characters really helps with voice. A...Fleshing out characters really helps with voice. Also, I think voice comes during revisions.Emily R. Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03892444969625637064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-36956064629382851162013-01-25T20:51:44.779-06:002013-01-25T20:51:44.779-06:00Laura -- Yes, it's all got to be there. But I ...Laura -- Yes, it's all got to be there. But I think now I understand better what it means for voice not to be there.<br /><br />Vijaya -- Very true: If I don't care about a book, it's usually because I don't want to follow the characters.<br /><br />Mirka -- Yes, what a challenge and a gift to be able to draw out someone's voice. It does seem most teachers and editors are of the opinion it can't be done.<br /><br />Dawn -- That's very interesting! You'd think a flat voice wouldn't get published. But we know how subjective the business is.<br /><br />Barbara -- That's one of the things I love about MG. I think the "parts" are less apt to be separated, if that makes sense. MGers want to know what happens, and the characters, plot and voice are organic for them.<br /><br />Jaye -- I do think trouble with voice can be interpreted by some readers as "the book is boring," but they can't quite put their finger on why.<br /><br />Faith -- Oh, I'm glad that helped! Thanks for telling me!<br /><br />Janet -- I'm rereading Little Women, and so enjoying the warm, humorous, upbeat voice of LMA. I hadn't really seen it that way before. Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10006966091789130047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-50172577074177268522013-01-25T08:13:36.914-06:002013-01-25T08:13:36.914-06:00Yes, voice is important. I love the way some books...Yes, voice is important. I love the way some books are written. I also love unique characters in MG books.Janethttp://creativewritingintheblackberrypatch.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-53228626101764108482013-01-24T16:20:29.935-06:002013-01-24T16:20:29.935-06:00I agree...because I think the things we love like ...I agree...because I think the things we love like plot and character rarely reach us if the voice isn't there. I've read synopses of books that sounded amazing that I just couldn't get into because the voice wasn't there.<br />It's funny how hard it is to create voice on demand, as it were...but I do notice when it is lacking in my own writing. For example, when you critiqued a chapter for me several months ago, I KNEW the voice I wanted wasn't there yet--and your comments really helped me bring it out! So thank you!Faith E. Houghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03823750019164801104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-36394726504715607382013-01-24T13:16:53.335-06:002013-01-24T13:16:53.335-06:00I think voice is critical to engage the reader. I think voice is critical to engage the reader. Jaye Robin Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03929739858812153990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-40732114165742870202013-01-24T11:35:10.378-06:002013-01-24T11:35:10.378-06:00It could be, that in MG, equal parts of both are i...It could be, that in MG, equal parts of both are imperative. Perhaps you can't separate the two even; they're melded. Great voice means great story. Great story means great voice.Barbara Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547166495514562286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-7046305365018482422013-01-24T10:57:44.556-06:002013-01-24T10:57:44.556-06:00I'm reading something now that has a great plo...I'm reading something now that has a great plot but the voice is flat. I'm having a hard time getting through it. After a quick look at my bookshelf and the finding the books I've loved in the past, it's the voice that drew me in. D.E. Malonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256696009575732721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-37613830758665393052013-01-24T10:27:49.006-06:002013-01-24T10:27:49.006-06:00I agree that voice, in literary context, is the na...I agree that voice, in literary context, is the narrative personality. Simplest way I can put it. Just as the characters have personalities, the narration is the over-arching "person."<br />I don't know that you can teach it so much as bring it out. Help coax it out of your students. That's what good teacher does in the creative fields.<br />Mirka Breenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00653086859905415156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-76233490504330413762013-01-24T07:53:03.612-06:002013-01-24T07:53:03.612-06:00A great book has it all! I'm sucked into books...A great book has it all! I'm sucked into books for all sorts of reasons -- usually concept or voice, but what keeps me invested is whether I care what happens to these story-people? So, character probably matters more to me ... of course, they can't be sitting on their duffs doing nothing, because then I just want to whack them ;)<br /><br />And yes, if you really want to learn something, you teach it.Vijayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07876606729146077830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9054081895459294120.post-66681798781621928232013-01-24T06:44:04.297-06:002013-01-24T06:44:04.297-06:00That's tough. Probably the MG books I read and...That's tough. Probably the MG books I read and loved had terrific voice, but they also had great story/characters/writing.Laura Paulinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06503090226508079501noreply@blogger.com